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I have been doing some historic research on the internet, and on one of my favourite sites I found a book of collected traditional Manx Recipes, published in 1890something. This appears to have been a very early version of the charity recipe books we see nowadays - the recipes were collected from local women and a local doctor and the book was sold for the benefit of the parishioners of the church in Peel.
It doesn't say a lot for the diet of the Manx in the nineteenth century that the first half dozen recipes were all for porridge, and the next dozen or so were for other ways of cooking oatmeal which were basically porridge made with stock as a savoury meal 'good for working men', and then there were recipes for porridge made with toasted oatmeal and meat stock, for very special occasions!
More than half the recipes seemed to include oatmeal in one form or another - and many of the rest of them were for the thing I remember being told was the horror of my Grandfather's youth - Binjean - milk warmed and set with rennet. The only addition, if you were lucky, was a sprinkle of sugar.
There were at least two recipes which basically said 'split a barley loaf, fill it with butter and a boiled herring' - and the special version, where you filled it with a herring and a boiled potato.
There was a recipe for gingerbread - this was probably the fanciest thing in it, and also a recipe for haggis - which it said was a very traditional manx dish! This of course contained a lot of oatmeal, but there was also a haggis variation containing potato instead - that would probably have had Rabby Burns turning in his grave!
So had I been born 100 years earlier than I was, I would have lived on oatmeal porridge, barley bread, herrings, potatoes, and milk. I only noticed any vegetable other than onion or potato in one recipe - it had a turnip in it. I wonder whether I would have been more or less healthy?
It doesn't say a lot for the diet of the Manx in the nineteenth century that the first half dozen recipes were all for porridge, and the next dozen or so were for other ways of cooking oatmeal which were basically porridge made with stock as a savoury meal 'good for working men', and then there were recipes for porridge made with toasted oatmeal and meat stock, for very special occasions!
More than half the recipes seemed to include oatmeal in one form or another - and many of the rest of them were for the thing I remember being told was the horror of my Grandfather's youth - Binjean - milk warmed and set with rennet. The only addition, if you were lucky, was a sprinkle of sugar.
There were at least two recipes which basically said 'split a barley loaf, fill it with butter and a boiled herring' - and the special version, where you filled it with a herring and a boiled potato.
There was a recipe for gingerbread - this was probably the fanciest thing in it, and also a recipe for haggis - which it said was a very traditional manx dish! This of course contained a lot of oatmeal, but there was also a haggis variation containing potato instead - that would probably have had Rabby Burns turning in his grave!
So had I been born 100 years earlier than I was, I would have lived on oatmeal porridge, barley bread, herrings, potatoes, and milk. I only noticed any vegetable other than onion or potato in one recipe - it had a turnip in it. I wonder whether I would have been more or less healthy?
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Date: 26/06/2006 10:16 pm (UTC)You would have had vitamin deficiencies, though -- most likely vitamin D (which we get today from UV irradiated milk), and in the winter when your entire vegetable intake was turnips and onions, you might have suffered scurvy, though if there was any cabbage around, that would have been less likely.
There is plenty of fiber in oatmeal -- particularly the unprocessed oatmeal available then, so you would have been regular ;-).
So, on the whole, you would have been healtier -- less fat in the diet, less saturated fat, plenty of fiber, so your cardiac health would have benefitted. However, there was less variety, and variety is how you get a good balance of vitamins, so there was a danger of rickets, and other vitamin deficiencies.
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Date: 26/06/2006 10:36 pm (UTC)I think there were probably some apples around in the winter - they just weren't in the book as they didn't need recipes. But when my grandfather described being a lad sent to work on a farm in the very early 1900s and living on oatmeal porridge, oatmeal soaked in broth, and binjean with no flavouring every day, day after day it would seem to not have been all that unusual.
Mind you, the farmer and his wife had bacon, ham, mutton etc. - so at least more protein than they gave him. He ran away and went home after about a month of that diet - he used to say he couldn't bear the food any more.
He would never eat custard for the rest of his life, or porridge. Goodness knows what he would have thought about the amount of yoghurt we eat either!
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Date: 26/06/2006 11:11 pm (UTC)I always get a kick out of those kinds of recipes books; they really reveal a lot about the region. We lived in a predominantly scandinavian area (Astoria, Oregon. The local joke was that a "mixed marriage" was when a swede marries a norwegian and the phrase "Schturdy vimin" is still a running family joke)when i was a teenager. Aside from the almost total lack of spices those people apparently eat scary amounts of herring and pastry. Lutefisk-- yikes. I almost think I'd rather eat the binjean!
My folks now live in a heavily 7th day adventist area and so the cookbook is primarily vegetarian. I actually like the cashew loaf, and I'm a fan of the curried garbanzo beans.
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Date: 27/06/2006 07:48 am (UTC)And the thought of lutefisk would drive me to the binjean as well!
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Date: 27/06/2006 07:57 am (UTC)I think there are no recipes for them because this is a book of people giving their 'own' recipes for things - and they probably didn't think they had a way of frying or salting herring that was any different to anyone else's.
I think they rolled the herrings in oatmeal then fried them (no surprises there then!), or put them on top of the potatoes in the pot to boil.
We owe our all to Tescos around here - or the Co-op!
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Date: 26/06/2006 11:40 pm (UTC)Old cookbooks and recipes are fascinating, aren't they? A hundred years ago - well, 106 years ago, to be exact - my grandparents were newly-weds living in New Orleans, where my grandpa worked at the Grunewald Hotel. And I have a lot of my grandmother Nona's recipes, some hand-written, and others cut out of the Picayune's food columns and annotated. Quite a contrast, as you can imagine!
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Date: 27/06/2006 11:45 am (UTC)When I think about it, almost all the recipes were collected in Peel - a small fishing village - but there are no recipes for herring - presumably because there was no need for a recipe that says roll the herring in oatmeal and fry in lard or butter. What does surprise me is that there is no recipe for potted herring - herring baked in a mixture of brine and vinegar with spices, which I would have thought was traditional even 120+ years ago - perhaps all the women guarded their recipes for that so closely that they refused to contribute them!
I think I would much prefer your grandmother's recipes. :~)
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Date: 27/06/2006 04:04 pm (UTC)Also, from a certain point of view, you could say that the recipes Nona clipped from the Picayune were the equivalent of your fishing village cookbook - the *village* being a bit larger, that's all. Rhe Picayune was then making a real effort to collect traditional recipes and preserve the secrets of the local cuisine, and the food column was part of a concerted effort to gather together the old recipes before the local cooks, many of them African-American, passed on with their stories untold.
The result, btw, was The Picaune Creole Cookbook, one of the classics in the field, published in 1901 and definitely worth reading even if you don't want to try the recipes. It's delightful!
http://www.foodhistory.com/classics/picayune/ccb.htm
Now that I think about it, the Creole exposure also explains why my mother, who, let's face it, was born in 1907 and grew up in a tiny little town in Mississippi that wasn't even ON the River, was such an amazingly creative cook - she learned from HER mom! I mean, I always read about *fifties food* with the mental reservation, "but we didn't eat stuff like that!" No salads made from Jello, f'rinstance, and not a lot of stuff made with the aid of Campbell's soups, and always green salads and lots of vegetables. Lucky me. And thanks, mom. ;)
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Date: 27/06/2006 06:53 pm (UTC)Then the daughter doesn't eat lamb, or mushrooms, or eggs, unless they are no longer identifialble as eggs, and she isn't keen on salmon either... Sometimes it's nice to just cook something that I like, and eat it on my own!
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Date: 27/06/2006 10:39 pm (UTC)Oh, my! I can certainly understand why! Do you have to keep a chart, or by now, do you just automatically compensate for everyone's idiosyncracies? ;)
I am reminded of my Brit buddy John, whose refusal to eat certain foods - or, for example, steak unless it was cooked to death - nearly drove me nuts! I did introduce him to New Orleans cuisine on several of his visits here, and much to my shock, he actually ate strange things.... like oysters on the half shell, at the Acme (the greatest oyster bar in the known universe - make a note in case you ever get to NOLA!).
But John refused to eat anything green (except peas and green M&Ms), considered the potato the perfect vegetable which should be served at every meal, and like your husband, was pretty picky about tomatoes unless they were part of spaghetti sauce. Oh, and salads were Evil!
*sigh* I won't even try to tell you what happened when I visited him in Leeds and tried to cook in what he referred to as his kitchen and I called "a closet with something you just think is a stove." And a fridge the size of the one my daughter kept in her college dorm room. Ack!
However, I truly did enjoy the Brit grocery store experience, although I'm still a tad baffled about something called "gammon" - huh? AND I discovered DOUBLE CREAM on those visits, so I figure culinary detente was achieved! Yay!
And cool that you read cookbooks like novels! My faves are those with lots of historical and/or cultural detail, offering gateways into different regions or cultures or "how the ancestors did it." Let me give you another great rec: Classic Southern Cooking by Damon Lee Fowler, well-researched and compulsively readable. Okay, so not everyone might appreciate 10 pages on the history of baking in the South before a actual bread recipe finally appears, but damn, I loved it! History you can eat - brilliant!
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Date: 27/06/2006 11:01 pm (UTC)The daughter will eat any sort of salad, the husband will eat Caesar Salad, potato salad, rice salad, and coleslaw at a push, especially if it has cheese in it!
Gammon is thick sliced frying ham. Which is good in a casserole including mushrooms and cider - so not something I've cooked for a few years!
Double cream is my not so secret weakness - I will eat fruit for sweet as long as I can have a spoonful of double cream on it!
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Date: 27/06/2006 11:41 pm (UTC)Wow, that's Yet Another Mystery solved!
Thanks, hon. ;)
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Date: 26/06/2006 11:59 pm (UTC)I tracked part of my family to the original European (trying to be PC here and it doesn't come naturally to me) settlers of Kentucky. One of the cock books that I found that fit them historically consisted of forty-seven recipes for corn.
Just corn.
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Date: 27/06/2006 11:47 am (UTC)Amen to that!
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Date: 27/06/2006 12:41 am (UTC)On the other hand, I live with a man who knows a thousand ways to cook cabbage and seems to think they all taste differently.
*hates cabbage*
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Date: 27/06/2006 11:53 am (UTC)Having seen all these ways of cooking oatmeal a thousand cabbage recipes seems understandable! I would even eat some of them I would think!
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Date: 27/06/2006 02:22 am (UTC)And for the record, I do eat it with brown sugar substitute and to help lower my cholesterol.
You really make the most interesting posts dearie!
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Date: 27/06/2006 12:00 pm (UTC)Thank you.
I like mine made with water rather than milk, sprinkle of brown sugar - and a spoonful of half-cream as there is no milk in it.;~)
But three or four times a week is enough!
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Date: 27/06/2006 12:03 pm (UTC)But thank heavens for Tescos!
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Date: 27/06/2006 05:18 am (UTC)I like oatmeal, but once a day would be plenty.
Here, in the Midwest, it would have been corn instead of the oatmeal: corn porridge, Johnnycakes, corn pone, corn bread, creamed style corn, corn on the cob, scalloped corn, corn fritters, corn pudding, and succotash.
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Date: 27/06/2006 12:06 pm (UTC)It is amazing how creative women were with the staples of the area they lived in. But there is definitely a limit to what you can do to make oatmeal interesting!
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Date: 27/06/2006 07:19 am (UTC)I can't help thinking in some ways they were more healthy than us -- that their failure to balance their diet is no more unhealthy than the crap we put into ours.
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Date: 27/06/2006 12:08 pm (UTC)But I don't think I would want to swap my coffee and a cookie for milk and oatcakes.
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