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Here are the last pictures of our visit to London – you can breath a sigh of relief. They are of some lesser known monuments of significance to my history loving daughter. There are things we did not take pictures of – which separated us from the run of the mill tourist so to speak – there were no photos of black cabs, red buses, letter boxes or phone boxes – all of which we saw being snapped over and over again by lots of people – most of them Japanese it seemed.



One of D-d’s heros is Dr. John Snow – and as a nurse I have to agree with her. He is the founding father of epidemiology – the study of how diseases are spread. He analysed the fatalities in the London cholera outbreak of 1854, and realized that almost everyone lived in the same area. His investigations led him to realize that they got their water from the pump at Broad Street, in Soho – and that the hot weather meant that the people were drinking the water cold, rather than using it to make tea.

He concluded the pump was the source, and the disease must be water-borne – but had trouble convincing anyone else. The local brewery workers had all escaped the disease – but they drank the beer, never water; one lady died who lived miles away – but her daughter brought her water from that same pump because she thought it tasted better than the water where she lived. So sure was he of his findings that he went and personally removed the handle from the pump, so no water could be drawn from it. The outbreak came to a rapid end and Snow was proved to be right.

We found the very spot on which the pump had stood – the street had been renamed, but we did a bit of detective work – so here is D-d beside the plaque commemorating John snow and the Broad Street pump.





The other photos here were all taken very near the Tower of London. D-d has spent a lot of time researching James Duke of Monmouth for her history course. He was a bastard son of Charles 2nd who was persuaded to be the figurehead for an attempted revolution. D-d thinks he was not terribly clever. The revolution failed, and Monmouth was beheaded. He famously asked the Axeman to be sure to make it a clean cut – but sadly the axeman was new, and nervous, and it took him many tries to remove poor Monmouth’s head from his body. I like to think that Monmouth knew nothing after the first blow – the rest just shocked the on-lookers.

The spot on which he was executed is today marked with a nice memorial to him, and others who were executed on the same spot – outside the Tower, in public, because they were commoners not royalty. Here is the plaque, the one with Monmouth’s name on it, and D-d who wanted her pilgrimage to this spot recorded.














In the background of the picture of D-d is a memorial that I personally found very moving. It is just outside Trinity House, and it is to all the members of the UK Merchant Navy who gave their lives in the First World War.

Every one of those small black squares you can see has many names of seamen, listed by vessel – about 12,000 names in all. The memorial continues onto a high wall enclosing a garden, just behind the plants in the left of my picture, with the names of those who lost their lives at sea in British merchant and fishing vessels during the Second World War – there are about 24,000 of those.

It is a sombre, but beautiful memorial to those whose names do not appear on the war memorials across the country because they were not in the fighting services – but died trying to keep their country (or in some cases their adopted country) provided with food, and other supplies.




In other news, the weather turned out better than expected – it stayed fine for D-d and her friends to have the birthday picnic – although she was not up to eating much – the reason for which was in my last, friends-locked, post. (Don’t worry Dorothy if you are reading this – just a lesson well learnt!)

I spent a happy hour or more replanting my hanging baskets and some of the pots, with lots of plants some of which I even knew names for!!

Date: 01/05/2006 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petzipellepingo.livejournal.com
Back in the early 1970s the first production ever shown on Masterpiece Theatre was The First Churchills with John Neville and Susan Hampshire. Part of the storyline was the reign of Charles II and included Monmouth's rebellion and subsequent execution. I still remember that scene because of the number of blows it took. As you say, hopefully shock set in and he didn't suffer too much anymore than Mary Queen of Scots or the Countess Salisbury.
I've enjoyed looking at the photos because they reminded me of all the pleasure I had visiting your lovely country.

Date: 01/05/2006 09:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] makd.livejournal.com
Thanks for sharing these. I love to see photos of my online friends, their families, and the places they live and travel to.

Much appreciated.

Date: 01/05/2006 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bogwitch.livejournal.com
London isn't short of interesting things, that's for sure!

Date: 01/05/2006 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
I'm so glad that you've found them a nice reminder - I enjoyed looking at them through D-d's eyes - but I'll cope with jjust the pics to remind me for a while now I think - it's not a place I want to see every week!!

Date: 01/05/2006 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
Thank you - I have really enjoyed sharing them.

Date: 01/05/2006 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
Ha! Aren't you glad that I was only there for a week? It's the effect the big city has on country yokels like me, of course!

Date: 01/05/2006 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bogwitch.livejournal.com
:D

It's funny, London is only about 20 miles away and no one ever goes there unless they have to. They have a major international city on their doorstep and it might as well be on another planet.

It amazes me.

Date: 01/05/2006 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
It is a bit of a tourist centre though - and once you've been to The Tower or The V&A you don't need to go again for a while - so the only reason to go really is for the theatre - not even to shop, with so many shops outside the city these days. So I can understand people living fairly close and not bothering to go.

Date: 01/05/2006 10:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gillo
I think D-d is right, Monmouth wasn't very bright. He was enough of a Stuart to have the charisma, but also enough of a Stuart to have the atrocious judgement and the self-confidence totally lacking any foundation in reality. His father was more or less the only sensible Stuart and he did his level best to warn Monmouth, but failed. Pity so many others had to die with him, including so many of Cornwall's best and brightest.

Snow was indeed a superlative figure who saved many, many lives. It seems astonishing now just how hard he had to fight to prove his point.

Date: 01/05/2006 11:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jerusha
I, for one, am glad you've shared your pictures! I've found them very interesting.

Date: 02/05/2006 06:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claudia-yvr.livejournal.com
Thanks for sharing! London is one of those cities I never tire of, so I especially enjoy hearing stories and seeing pictures of other people's experiences of the place.

Date: 02/05/2006 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
Yes - John Snow is a good hero to have. Poor Monmouth was too gullible for his own good, and the good of many others, but Kat was glad to see that there is at least a shared memorial to him.

Date: 02/05/2006 07:27 am (UTC)

Date: 02/05/2006 07:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
Thank you - it was a good week - something of a magical history tour!

Date: 02/05/2006 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spikereader.livejournal.com
I like these lesser known monuments and the stories behind them. I'm sure I must have seen a TV programme about Dr John Snow - the story is very familiar to me.

Date: 02/05/2006 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayinhara.livejournal.com
Many thanks for the pictures. I have not been in Europe for 15 years. Once we discovered southwestern Colorado, we used our short American holidays to go there. Now that we have more time (I'm fully retired, but my husband is semi-retired), we have gotten into a rut, pleasant though it is, of splitting our time between Colorado and NYC. We definitely need to get back to Europe and revisit London, Paris, etc.

Date: 02/05/2006 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ozma914.livejournal.com
All that history ... I could just drown in all that history ...

Date: 02/05/2006 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
I'm sure there have been TV programmes about him - I think there was one last year on something - and he is definitely D-d's big hero.

Date: 02/05/2006 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
I am glad you enjoyed them - I get as much pleasure out of your ones of NYC - LJ expands the horizons!

Date: 02/05/2006 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
So much of the British Isles overflows with history - When I was a teenager my aunt and uncle had a bit of Hadrian's Wall at the end of their garden!

Date: 02/05/2006 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wisemack.livejournal.com
What? No more pictures? Waaaaah! :)

Being a total Anglophile who managed to get to London TWICE without seeing any of the seroius historical sites, I'm loving these so much.

The mention of Monmouth brought to mind one of my favorite English authors, Elizabeth Goudge, who told the story of Monmouth's mother, Lucy Walters, in The Child From The Sea (1970). It's been years since I read it, but if memory serves, it was a fascinating (and sympathetic) take on a fairly obscure historical personage. I liked it a lot! (But then, I'm a romantic at heart.)



Date: 02/05/2006 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
It's been my pleasure to share - it has made the holiday last longer, if you see what I mean!

The historical bits of London are the best bits for my history-mad daughter, and I like those bits best as well. If you make it again any time the Royal Palaces are wonderful, and all the museums and art galleries are free now, so paying for The Tower etc. is not too bad, because you can balance it with The National Gallery or whatever!

D-d is a real expert on Monmouth - about whose existence and rebellion I had just about forgotten anything I knew until she started researching him. I think she is right when she calls him 'poor Monmouth' - a bit stupid and easily led, so losing his own head, and bringing about the execution of many others. I found the memorial for her - she hadn't realised it existed, and so I was really pleased with myself!

Date: 02/05/2006 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bojojoti.livejournal.com
I love visiting places that make me feel as though I'm touching history.

Alas, phones boxes and letter boxes are nearly a thing of the past. Indeed, pay phones are disappearing rapidly as everyone over the age of six seems to have a cell phone (except me).

Thanks for sharing.



Date: 02/05/2006 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
I love visiting places that make me feel as though I'm touching history.

Me too - museums are excellent, but being there is best.

You're right about the phone boxes - I haven't used one for ages.

Date: 03/05/2006 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ozma914.livejournal.com
Holy cow -- I just watched a documentary on Hadrian's Wall, Sunday. That would be such an awesome thing ... although I suppose many people would take it for granted, having it so close all the time.

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