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I don't expect anyone to remember, but I have mentioned in the past that D-d has a lucky touch when it comes to winning money on the outcome of the Grand National. The Grand National is the biggest race of the year over fences in the UK - and the race that people run sweepstakes on, and have their one bet of the year on. D-d and I are no exception, and we took ourselves to the bookmakers in Ramsey on the way to my Mum's.

Actually, you can tell everyone bets on The National - there was a queue of at least 50 people in front of us - all of whom clearly decided, like us, to then get sandwiches from the nearby shop for lunch - it's the first time I've known the sandwich shop run out of bread by 12.45pm.

Anyway, this year D-d got 'Sea Bass' in the office sweepstakes - and chose to put her £1 each way bets on two others - 'Organisedconfusion', the other horse with a female jockey (Sea Bass was ridden by a young woman), and the first grey she noticed in the list of runners, as she realised that his colours included a star - she likes stars.

I had a bet on 'Shakalakaboomboom' - it was that Shaka in his name, and on locally owned 'Ballabrigs'.

Shakalaka-b-b was in the lead for much of the race - had it been a couple of furlongs shorter I would have had a winner - but he ended up 9th - Ballabrigs was 6th.

D-d's horses? Sea Bass came 3rd - £10 back from the sweepstakes. Organisedconfusion didn't complete the course - her grey? Neptune Collonges. Which won at 33/1. That's a return of £43 on her £4 stake at the bookmakers to add to the £10 for her £2 in the sweepstakes.

Next time I'll just put my money on the same horses as she does...

Date: 14/04/2012 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nutmeg3.livejournal.com
Congrats to D-d!

Ever since reading National Velvet as a kid, I've dreamed of going one day. If I ever do, I'll be sure to ask D-d who to bet on. *g*

Date: 14/04/2012 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
She certainly seems to have some fool-proof method... even for drawing the right horse's name out of the bag in the sweepstakes!

Date: 14/04/2012 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slaymesoftly.livejournal.com
That's amazing! Yes, I think I'd just follow her lead. :)

Date: 14/04/2012 10:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] spiced-wine.livejournal.com
Wahey! That's great. My brother used to be equally lucky on the National. I'd love to see it one day. I've always watched the race. An aunt who taught me to ride, looked after one of the winners in the 70's, and I saw Red Rum when I was much younger. He was a small horse for those massive fences, but he had an incredible presence He knew he was a star *g*. I was more thrilled patting him, than I would have been meeting a famous band. :D

Date: 14/04/2012 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
Congrats! I'd love to see the Grand National some day.

Date: 14/04/2012 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clodia-metelli.livejournal.com
Congrats to her!

Date: 14/04/2012 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
She really does seem to have a feel for the National - goodness knows how!

Date: 14/04/2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
Oh - I'd have been thrilled to pat Red Rum, too!

When she was at uni, and then law college, in York my daughter lived at the edge of the Knavesmire and could watch the races from her window in her last year. You can go to the races there for free as long as you don't want to go into the stands or an enclosure as the Knavesmire is common land. She and her friends did so quite often - occasionally paying the £10 or so for the enclosure with the bookies and having a flutter - and she rarely went home with less than she went out with there, either!

Date: 14/04/2012 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
It is a scarily big race - live it must be quite something - although, like most things, you probably get a better idea of the whole thing on TV.

How are you? Managed to dodge the worst of the weather, I hope!

Date: 14/04/2012 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
I'm not sure how she does it - but she does seem to have an affinity for the National.

Date: 14/04/2012 10:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shirebound
Yes, very wise! She does quite well.

Those horse names are terrific.

Date: 14/04/2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bogwitch.livejournal.com
I had Seabass too, me and my friend were gutted it didn't win (though I was even more upset about Sunnyhillboy who was my main tip to win). I actually had the 2nd, 3rd and 4th home so I made about £5 profit. Alas I was not on old Neptune, who's a horse I've liked for a long time, but dismissed because of the wieght, his greyness and because he hasn't seemed the same horse lately that was third to Denman and Kauto Star in the Gold Cup.

I liked poor old Synchronised too. :( I have to say I've been watching racing all my life and I've watched 30 plus Nationals and I accept there are risks, but something about this particular race was brutal and that was evident way before we found out about the fatalities. My friend even said before the race begain that she thought this race would be a disaster.

Date: 14/04/2012 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bogwitch.livejournal.com
I patted Red Rum too (along with bout a billion other people). The lovely old boy walked straight up to me in a crowd and offered me his nose for attention!

Date: 14/04/2012 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
It was the fact that she only chose Neptune Collange because he was a grey and there was a star in his colours; not based on knowledge like your decisions at all!

I felt really sad about Synchronised too - it is easy to say in hindsight that he was too spooked and perhaps they shouldn't have started him - but if they had pulled him at that point there would have been an outrage. And he seemed to actually clear the fence before he went down too. So sad to have had two deaths two years in a row.

Date: 14/04/2012 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
I don't know why I ever pick horses for myself!

UK racehorses have some weird and wonderful names - I'm guessing American ones must too, though.

Date: 14/04/2012 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kortirion.livejournal.com
I too generally have a flutter on the National. First thing this morning I was going for Shaka-etc and Seabass... then I thought nargh... and didn't bet, but at 3.50 this afternoon my Boss rang the shop and asked someone to go and put a big bet on Seabass for him, so I thought 'oh go on...' and I had £2.50 each way at 10/1. I think I get my money back at those odds for a third place - ?

But the girl did good to get third - isn't that the highest placing for a female jockey in the National?

Date: 14/04/2012 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bogwitch.livejournal.com
Not a lot of knowlege mind you!

I heard he actually sustained the injury while loose at the 11th. I don't believe he was that spooked, tbh, though I suppse it all the fuss at the start wouldn't have helped and Becher's is too early really to know if the horse is settled or not. I think McCoy is wise enough to know a Gold Cup winner falling would not be a good thing for racing. I think the bigger question is why they ran him at all, seeing as they didn't try last year because they felt he wasn't a good enough jumper.

Date: 14/04/2012 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
Yes - I should have phrased it 'there are bound to be people who say that he was too spooked... etc' Because I agree with you. But you just know there will be people saying it.

Date: 14/04/2012 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
I think, yes, you get your money back - so definitely better than I did! And yes, she is the best placed female jockey at the national so far - an excellent result.

By the way - and way off topic - I forgot to say thank you for the cake-stand info - which was really kind of you.

Date: 14/04/2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] engarian.livejournal.com
Oh, that's absolutely marvelous, and so deserved now that she's in a new place of her own. Bravo!

- Erulisse (one L)

Date: 15/04/2012 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zanthinegirl.livejournal.com
I'm impressed! I never ever win at gambling.

Date: 15/04/2012 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona7.livejournal.com
We're fine here, thankfully. The really bad storms are several hundred miles west of us. We might get some weather tomorrow but it shouldn't be tornados. *crossing fingers * And hubby and daughter made it home from Wichita this evening without so much as a drop of rain hitting them. :)

Date: 15/04/2012 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrbojo.livejournal.com
I'm down in the basement riding out the storms, but it looks as though we've dodged two serious tornadoes. LJ is a good escape! Congratulations on your lucky daughter!

Date: 15/04/2012 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrbojo.livejournal.com
Ha! I'm not Mr. Bojo. I'm just using his laptop.

Date: 15/04/2012 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thismaz.livejournal.com
I have a theory that me drawing a name out of the bag in the office sweepstake guarantees the horse will not win... As a theory, it's still holding good. *g*
Congratulations to D-d.

Date: 15/04/2012 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inzilbeth-liz.livejournal.com
Congratulations! It would have been one of the best Nationals in years if not for the two fatalities.

My run of backing the runners up which began with Honey End [2nd] and Red Alligator [3rd] in Foinavon's year of 1967 continued with both Sunnyhillboy and Sea Bass!

And I'm still kicking myself for putting money on Longshanks in 2005 rather than the 100-1 winner Silver Birch!

Date: 15/04/2012 07:36 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jay-of-lasgalen.livejournal.com
I missed out on the Sweepstake at work - they'd already sold all the names! Still, as I usually jinx whatever poor horse I pick, it's probably for the best ;/ Well done to D-d - she did do well!

Date: 15/04/2012 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ozma914.livejournal.com
That's a useful talent!

Date: 15/04/2012 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petzipellepingo.livejournal.com
Congratulations to D-d!

Date: 15/04/2012 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ningloreth.livejournal.com
Well done, D-d!

I was surprised to learn that my sister-in-law always places a bet, but the rest of my family has never bothered!

Date: 15/04/2012 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ballena.livejournal.com
Excellent! She seems to be on a roll, definitely worth putting a couple of pounds on!
James let Chloe pick a horse - she chose Seabass, she liked the pattern! They had great fun shouting 'come on, Seabass!!' at the TV, and then Chloe put her £2.50 winnings into her money box ;-) Problem is, now she keeps asking for the 'fast horses' on the TV again!

Date: 15/04/2012 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
Well done Chloe! I remember, when I was a little older than her, my grandfather described the horses to me, from the paper, and I chose Nicolaus Silver because he was a grey. He won! I was thrilled! Until I realised that I didn't actually win the horse...

(I hope you've had a better week than you did weekend, and there was a perfectly 'innocent' reason for that rather scary phone message.)

Date: 15/04/2012 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellynn-ithilwen.livejournal.com
Yay, congratulations! :)

Date: 15/04/2012 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayinhara.livejournal.com
Good for D-d!

Date: 15/04/2012 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
Yes - I can see it coming in useful, for sure.

Date: 15/04/2012 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
I used to worry that she'd see it as all too easy, bearing in mind her success rate - but she does seem to be sensible about it, regarding it as occasional fun.

Date: 15/04/2012 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
I did wonder! Your basement does seem to be quite a pleasant spot, from pictures I remember - so as long as you, Mr B and Trophy are safely settled down there I can only hope everything is still as normal when you emerge.

Date: 15/04/2012 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
Your theory holds good for me, too!

Date: 15/04/2012 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
Hello - nice to see you - I'm guessing life is rather busy just now.

It was so sad about those two horses. I understand why 'slinging' a horse to keep the weight off a broken limb could lead to major chest problems, but it is so sad in this day and age that no-one has discovered a way of inserting metal work and a way to keep them non-weight bearing for a time. I think, if it were possible, almost every owner would go for it even if the horse would never race again - I don't believe, as is sometimes bandied about, that they are destroyed thoughtlessly because they will no longer be viable money-earners.

And your record of picking some of the best runners is most enviable. I can see why you would go for Longshanks - and why you might have gone, otherwise, for Silver Birch. My mother had planned to back Silver Birch that year, because of the name of the jockey, but her friend who was to go to the bookies for her was ill and didn't go... she always thinks of it as the one that got away, too. She had her money on Killyglen for the same reason this year - but with no luck.

Date: 15/04/2012 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
Isn't it? I reckon she is the only person I know whose 10 year record of betting on the National, or having a horse in a sweepstake, or both, is well in profit!

Date: 15/04/2012 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
I have that effect too - she is a much better influence on the form of horse than you or me!

Date: 15/04/2012 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
She is definitely in the money - very useful for her at the moment, as she is still getting bits and pieces for her new home.

Date: 15/04/2012 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
It is the only time my grandparents ever placed a bet, I can remember them doing so when I was very young, and it is very much a family tradition - whereas other people look blankly and wonder why, if you never bet on horses any other time, you would bother to bet on this race. I guess your sister-in-law comes from a family where it is traditional.

Date: 15/04/2012 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
It is very much a family tradition - but she is the luckiest family member, for sure!

Date: 15/04/2012 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
She seems to have an innate skill at picking good horses by their name and their colours. Fortunately she doesn't see it as a life style choice, as I can see it being the sort of luck one would run out of very quickly!

Date: 15/04/2012 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estelcontar1.livejournal.com
Lucky D-d. I think it would be very wise to follow her lead next year.

Date: 15/04/2012 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kortirion.livejournal.com
My pleasure - when I stopped dealing I kept all my reference books, so with a combination of those and knowing where to look online I can generally get a handle on most things... though having said that, I was shown a vase the other day that I still haven't got a clue about who made it!

Date: 15/04/2012 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
I really don't know why I ever try to pick for myself, really!

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