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curiouswombat ([personal profile] curiouswombat) wrote2006-01-21 07:22 pm

Dancing on Ice - and not at the European Championships either!

I don't know if any of the European Doctor Who fans on my FL have noticed, but Captain Jack (or at least the actor who plays him!) is in the ITV programme 'Dancing on Ice' (Like 'Strictly Come Dancing' on ice). And he is very, very good. If I was a betting wombat I'd have me a fiver on him to win.

Ways away off the subject but need opinion.

[identity profile] averageshmoe.livejournal.com 2006-01-22 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I've just seen another of what I call "A Page Three Abomination." Now this doesn't have anything to do with The Sun and their models. It's just that they seem to appear every third page over at FanFiction.net. It's a type of post-NFA story that I have come to despise. Buffy arrives after the battle and begins weeping over a pile of ashes. Angel, the sole survivor, appears from the shadows and she runs to him through all that remains of Spike. They embrace, the music swells and the story ends.

Do the authors have any IDEA how bad this makes Buffy and Angel appear? That story that I mentioned awhile ago over at S2C's LJ is pretty much a satire of this concept. I'm not certain I can write it now as most of these pieces satirize themselves.

In these worlds I'm glad that Buffy and Angel get together for I would never wish either of them on my worst enemy.

Anyway, would anyone be able to suggest who might be considered a victim of either Buffy or Angel, romantic or otherwise. My little ditty is a response to this leaky ship and I could sure use some help.

Thanks for any help you might be able to offer.

pgavigan

Re: Ways away off the subject but need opinion.

[identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com 2006-01-23 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess other people might look at it a bit differently, but I think one of Angel's victims is Wes - Had Angel not pulled them into W&H he might have got into a relationship with Fred at least as quickly, but would not have lost her to Illyria, nor ended up dead as he did. I don't think Angel ever really forgave Wes for kidnapping Connor.

Xander could well be seen as a victim of his fascination with Buffy - although there is the distinct possibility that without him becoming part of the Slayer's inner circle he would have not survived high school. But without Buffy, had he survived, he would not have met Anya, would probably have been in a relationship with A.N Other by now, complete with two functional eyes.

But for most of the cast of both series people are both victim and beneficiary - Cordelia would have died four years or so before she ended up in the coma if Angel hadn't saved her from a vampire, and so on.