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About 30 minutes ago I commented to S2C that doubtless certain elements of American society would be blaming the effects of Hurricane/Storm/Meteorological Description of Choice Sandy on President Obama.

But wait... it's even better than that! I have found this article in the Independent.

I quote the opening paragraph;

Who's to blame for Hurricane Sandy? Why, Obama and Romney, of course! So says the TV evangelist John McTernan, who calls the storm God's response to the fact that "both candidates are pro-homosexual and behind the homosexual agenda". It's difficult to know what's weirder: his understanding of meteorology, or his grasp of the Romney-Ryan social platform.

Both candidates are to blame! Really - you couldn't make it up, could you?
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posted by [identity profile] at 11:27pm on 30/10/2012
These phony baloney religious types are beyond description. 9/11 was because the U.S. is soft on homosexuals too, according to some nitwits.
posted by [identity profile] at 11:41pm on 30/10/2012
But of course - it's obvious... not!
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posted by [personal profile] jerusha at 11:46pm on 30/10/2012
What I want to know is why these folks are so obsessed with gay people? They barely get a mention in the bible; other sins (like pride!) get more of the limelight. One wonders if there's a certain element of protesting a bit too much.
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posted by [personal profile] desdemonaspace at 11:31pm on 30/10/2012
This crazy country. I tells ya.

**shakes head**
posted by [identity profile] at 11:44pm on 30/10/2012
I, seriously, saw an American woman being interviewed last week on TV about your elections who said "When it comes to a job like President I think you've gotta go for the one with the experience..."

Ah, obviously Obama, him having been in the job for the past few year! No. She continued "So that's why I'm voting for Romney."

posted by [identity profile] at 11:33pm on 30/10/2012

At moments like that I feel as though there may be hope for political debate on this side of the pond after all...
posted by [identity profile] at 11:45pm on 30/10/2012
UK politicians and religious leaders come over as measured and sensible by comparison!
posted by [identity profile] at 11:38pm on 30/10/2012
It was only a question of time before I saw something like this. A bit surprised that he's faulting both of them, but...

The Middle East doesn't have the market cornered on religious fanatics - alas.
posted by [identity profile] at 11:47pm on 30/10/2012
Yes - managing to fault them both was, I thought, the master stroke that made this more than I had imagined.
posted by [identity profile] at 11:41pm on 30/10/2012
There's always some wacko out there making Christians look bad... and sadly, there's always a media type there to report it. *sigh*
posted by [identity profile] at 11:48pm on 30/10/2012
There's always some wacko out there making Christians look bad

Isn't there just...

Fortunately it was the UK media - who just think the whole thing is hilariously funny and don't actually think of these people as Christians at all, on the whole.
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posted by [personal profile] jerusha at 11:44pm on 30/10/2012
At least he's blaming both of them? *sigh*

Honestly, I was expecting this. America really does breed its own special brand of crazy...
posted by [identity profile] at 11:50pm on 30/10/2012
Blaming both of them was what put it above the usual level of political ass-hattery, I thought!

Your in-laws probably think he's right...
posted by [identity profile] at 11:56pm on 30/10/2012
I hope that TV evangelist John McTernan is treated with the same derision that he would receive here - what a twat!
posted by [identity profile] at 12:01am on 31/10/2012
Can you imagine? They'd invite him onto Have I Got News For You and then metaphorically tear him limb from limb!
posted by [identity profile] at 12:03am on 31/10/2012
My question is...:"who's the idiot that actually allowed this to be printed?". Scary world, isn't it? And NO.. You can't make this up!
posted by [identity profile] at 08:44am on 31/10/2012
The article is in a UK paper, quoting it as an example of the stupidity of so much of American politics - so I'll forgive them for posting it!
posted by [identity profile] at 12:09am on 31/10/2012
Yep! Sounds about right! (Shakes head, rolls eyes, and bangs head against the wall...)
posted by [identity profile] at 08:46am on 31/10/2012
You really couldn't make such stuff up - well, until you've heard the rubbish your politicians spout, and then you can.
posted by [identity profile] at 12:17am on 31/10/2012
Nothing like this surprises me any more.

There are so many things I've given up on in my homeland.
At least he's not a raving pro-Romney/Ryan guy...and that's the only kind thing I can say about him.

posted by [identity profile] at 08:50am on 31/10/2012
If it wasn't for the fact that so many Americans take such stuff seriously he could make a fortune as a comedian.

American politics appals, scares and amuses me in equal quantities.
posted by [identity profile] at 12:26am on 31/10/2012
And so he thinks God would lash out like a child throwing a tantrum, hurting anyone who happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time while the 'guilty' are safe and sound and far away from NYC? I wish these people would take a step back occasionally and look at what they're actually saying!

For all the downright weirdness that happens over here, at least we mainly keep religion out of politics. I am duly grateful.
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posted by [identity profile] at 12:44pm on 31/10/2012
And so he thinks God would lash out like a child throwing a tantrum,

His God and mine are so very different.

For all the downright weirdness that happens over here, at least we mainly keep religion out of politics. I am duly grateful.

Both you in your place and me in mine!

posted by [identity profile] at 12:32am on 31/10/2012
I'm just so proud of my country. Not!
posted by [identity profile] at 12:46pm on 31/10/2012
It would simply be hilariously funny - if it wasn't for the fact that he seems to be serious, although not sane, and there are people who genuinely are stupid naive enough to think he is speaking on God's behalf!
posted by [identity profile] at 02:39am on 31/10/2012
Well, it was only a matter of time before someone said something stupid like this. They are way too predictable.
posted by [identity profile] at 12:48pm on 31/10/2012
It really was, wasn't it? I was even more amused that I had predicted at least the president getting the blame, but I hadn't predicted it being both their faults!
posted by [identity profile] at 02:54am on 31/10/2012
Gah. Of course it's teh gays that caused the storm.

::rolls eyes::

SO wish that it would stop being self-identified "Christians" who say idiotic things like that in for the press. Or anyway that people would stop publicizing the idiotic things that the fringe wackos spew out.
posted by [identity profile] at 12:55pm on 31/10/2012
But of course it's their fault... some people are simply like a tape loop that goes around and around. The article was, to be honest, holding the guy up for ridicule rather than agreeing with him.

What annoys me most is that these people call themselves Christian - but do not seem to follow the teachings of Christ at all. In face they never seem to even quote from the New Testament, but only from the Old one; which makes them more like a neo-judaic sect. Some seem to follow the writer of Revelations as well as the Old Testament - so perhaps they should be called Johnians...
posted by [identity profile] at 07:38am on 31/10/2012
When will I finally learn not to be surprised by the amount of human stupidity?
posted by [identity profile] at 12:56pm on 31/10/2012
The worst thing is that someone might even think what he is saying makes sense....
posted by [identity profile] at 09:36am on 31/10/2012
Blaming the current administration and/or politicians in general for the latest natural disaster isn't exactly a new thing over here. If people running for President were responsible for this, wouldn't the storm have demolished Washington?

When it comes to American politicians, we've got plenty of other stuff to blame them for.
posted by [identity profile] at 12:58pm on 31/10/2012
If people running for President were responsible for this, wouldn't the storm have demolished Washington?

Logic is beyond the people who spout such ridiculous rhetoric whilst claiming to be Christian - or they would realise that their whole stance is illogical if they actually read the Gospels...
posted by [identity profile] at 01:59pm on 31/10/2012
I'm not familiar with that TV evangelist. In fact, I looked all over Google and couldn't find that he was on television anywhere. It seems he does have a website, but he isn't well known. I may have a bigger presence on the web than him!

I truly wish people wouldn't look for the nut who invariably says something foolish anytime some bad happens. It isn't representative of the majority of Americans. It isn't even representative of a minority of Americans.

This is the e-mail I received from a local evangelist:

"Meteorologists say that "Frankenstorm" is the combination of a hurricane that collided with a winter storm, a cold front, and high tides from a full moon. The resulting hybrid storm has affected more than 60 million people. The cost of the storm is expected to exceed $20 billion. At least 50 homes in Queens were destroyed by a six-alarm fire. Lower Manhattan was swamped; government offices in Washington, D.C. remain closed this morning.

Before we decide that the hurricane is God's judgment on the Northeast, we might consider those it has already affected. I've been to Cuba six times and find the believers there among the strongest on earth. More than a million Cubans have come to Christ in the last decade. Yet Hurricane Sandy killed at least 11 Cubans and left thousands homeless. One of the pastors on the island called our office yesterday. He wept as he described the worst devastation he has seen in his lifetime. Is the hurricane God's judgment on these suffering people?

In my view, we should be slow to attribute natural events to supernatural causes. As the result of Adam and Eve's sin, "We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time" (Romans 8:22). In the Garden of Eden there would have been no hurricanes or earthquakes. God clearly caused Noah's Flood and the plagues in Egypt, but most of the natural disasters we experience are the result of living in a fallen world.

Today Jesus' followers are his hands and feet (1 Corinthians 12:27). Hurricane Sandy is our opportunity to go to those in the storm, proving the relevance of our faith by our compassion. How will you pray for those affected by this disaster? How will you give money and time to relief efforts? Who will see God's love in yours?"

This is representative of the majority of Christian Americans.
posted by [identity profile] at 08:11pm on 31/10/2012
This is representative of the majority of Christian Americans

Yes - and a very sensible and considered viewpoint.

Don't worry - most people in Britain don't think guys like that are at all representative - we just think they are very silly.

This was an outstanding example of stupidity, but at least even handed - it amused me particularly as I had predicted that someone was bound to be blaming it on the president - and lo! It was even stupider than that!

I do like the idea of you having a bigger internet presence - I shall start quoting you at opportune moments...
posted by [identity profile] at 07:27pm on 31/10/2012
*slips in* "Hullo*

You know, if it were not for the elections, the disaster on the east coast would be blamed on the "godless pagans and witches and devil worshippers" like it always is.

And on a less serious note: If I could do what Sandy did, I'd be president for life! Sadly, I totally phailed World Wide Destruction 101 class.
posted by [identity profile] at 08:13pm on 31/10/2012
Hello! How nice to see you here - we do bump into each other quite often.

And yes - such a pity that the godless pagan worshippers can't actually whip up storms like that - with pinpoint accuracy, please, and sic them onto a few folk!


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